To be succinct and private… My incubator worked me for weeks to build rapport and trust with me in my younger days, to get me to tell her a something that she would ultimately, and immediately use and weaponize against me and others.
This wasnt the first time I tried to have a relationship with her, but it did finally open my eyes and become the last. In the many many decades since, I’ve not so much as acknowledge her existence when crossing paths.
My mom told me that she heard my soon-to-be-wife say some really horrible things about her and my kids behind my back.
Whatever she thought that would accomplish didn’t work, because I had already told my wife to start recording her interactions with my mom. (Clearly not my first rodeo)
Mom wasn’t real happy when I told her I’d listen to the audio.
I have to ask.
If your moms such a piece of shit, why is your solution to your wife “make sure to record every interaction” instead of “Lets just stop dealing with this bitch”
Definitely a fair question.
We all lived in the same house at the time, and Mom’s name was on the deed, so up until that point we were walking on eggshells to keep things civil until other arrangements were in place.
That is utterly evil (ok the everyday sense). Glad you were prepped for that, but I’m very sorry that you’ve had life experiences that taught you it was necessary.
I still don’t know what Mom’s problem was with her, not that I even care. Before that point, they would each text me “You won’t believe what she said to me!”. I was stick on the middle trying to figure out what really happened, but something my mom said didn’t match with a major detail that she didn’t know about my wife’s past, so I had a feeling she was the one causing the shenanigans. That’s when I suggested the recordings.
You’re her property and another woman is encroaching on you.
could be she saw your wife as a threat to her controlling nature, or your wife saw through her bs, and the mom is projecting. i had a former co-worker that had an extremely controlling mother, due to having trauma with thier first child(an accident) so she kept the former coworker close to her, to the point of “suffocation”.
When I was 15 or so I get home from school and get a AIM message from an account I don’t know claiming to be a girl at my school who has a crush on me, but too shy to reveal who she is. Which was weird all by itself because I didn’t use AIM often.
At first I’m delighted, but she quickly becomes sexual. Talking about masturbating to me in very explicit detail. I get freaked out and stop responding. Which prompts an angry phone call from my Dad saying the account is messaging him now and bothering him at work. How she got my account info wss confusing, but i didn’t even know my dad had an account.
So I respond a few more times, and very quickly “she” starts sending me porn, which then turns to sending CSAM saying I need to masturbate to it too. I’m freaking tf out and block the account. Which prompts another angry phone call. I tell my dad I don’t know this person and tell him to just block the account to stop him getting bothered. He calls me a pussy and hangs up.
When he gets home, I tell him that the account was sending me freaky stuff. He stomps over to the computer, opens an terminal and typed a long string of characters that returns our IP address. “If it happens again, do this and we can catch this freak”. He then abruptly closes the window before I can even read what he typed, much less remember it. He slams his bedroom door and that’s the last I see of him for the night.
Took me a long time to fully understand and accept what happened that night, but I never looked at my dad the same again. There were a few more odd situations where he put CSAM in front of me or sent it to my step-dad getting him fired. But he died before I gathered the courage to confront him.
Wait…
your dad was AIMing you, pretending to be a girl your age? sending you child porn?
What the fuck
Yes. :/
There were other similar things he did but those are harder to talk about. This memory is just so absurd that it feels less personal.
I’m sorry, dude.
This feels quite minor compared to most of the stuff here, but something that has stuck with me.
I was on holiday with my parents when I was younger - maybe around 12 or 13. We were on a short boat trip, and I noticed my dad was wearing a baseball cap. In my mind I had this cute scene of me taking the hat off his head and putting it on myself, and all of us laughing. Kinda wholesome. But the second I reach for the hat he whacks me hard around the back of my head. I was more confused than anything - why did he instantly resort to violence? I hated the injustice of it; the image in my mind of doing something fun, something you’d see other families doing, but then the actual result being the complete opposite. I never understood it, but then I’ve never had much in common with my dad.
I think your dad hitting you for no reason is a very valid, very not-minor issue friend.
We’re not in the olympics, We’re not racing for the gold medal in misery. We don’t need to compare and rank what we’ve been through against others to find a winner.
What you went through shattered the image you had of father and family, and is very real and valid.
Thank you for saying so ❤️
Man I feel like I had those moments all the time in my family. I’m just going to do this fun harmless thing and they’re going to enjoy it only to get hurt, yelled at or, grounded then be really really confused and try to get clarification on what the hell just happened and the response I get is “you know what you did!” Which made me more mad cause clearly I don’t and I’m an angry crier then I’d get the “I’ll give you something to cry about!”
Yeah I don’t have and will have have kids of my own…
But anyways, I relate and I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Used the fact that he named me after himself to commit fraud using my name.
Mine didn’t do that, he just forged my signature.
Called my partner a gold digging whore (hilarious, considering she was earning 3x as much as I was at the time) and outright said I should marry the woman (daughter of a family friend) that they liked for me and keep my partner around as a side piece because “a real man knows how to make everyone happy”.
I don’t speak to them any more.
“The girl you like is a whore, you’d be much better marrying this girl instead, and fucking other women, you know, like a whore, but a good one”
What stellar logic they have.
I’m gay but like, the kind that almost got murdered in the 90s for coming out in a rural high school (I know Judy Shepard well). Fast forward to my mom telling me she’s conservative in every way “except she belongs to the log cabin republicans” and I just lost it. “God gave you a gay kid so you could realize everything else they’re saying is a lie, too, but you’re too stupid to get that.”
And that’s when I suddenly realized she had been outright abusive and manipulative my whole life, and it was just this idea of a perfect mom that clouded my vision on it. She weaponized her kids against our dad, his family, anyone she didn’t like. Because she was too much of a victim to fight her own fights. Emotional incest. Lots of therapy fodder.
Yeah I’m uncovering a lot of that about my own Mom in addition to the things that were obvious. I’m sorry, that sucks.
oh the emotional incest is ever so much fun.
8 years old and having to be their external emotional regulator while they dump all sorts of inappropriate stress and bullshit on you
For context: I had an uncle who was an alcoholic/addict, with his addiction being the result of immense trauma he suffered as a kid. He was fired from his job in the medical field after writing himself scripts, and made a genuine effort to turn his life around. He went to AA and other therapy, brought his sponsor/buddy to events where there would be alcohol, and generally took it seriously and worked to improve.
A few years later, we got a call in the early morning. He had overdosed and died after an argument with my aunt. It’s unclear whether it was a relapse or if the overdose was intentional, and to be honest it didn’t matter. My aunt was distraught, he was dead, and their kids now had no father. It was a horrific tragedy.
When I got up to ask what the phone call was for, my mother had a huge smile on her face. She thought his addiction was a moral failing that automatically made him a bad person, but she also judged him badly for needing AA and the buddy syatem to stay on track. She told us, with glee in her voice, that he had “finally killed himself”.
It took everything in my power to not lay into her, which I didn’t do only because I knew she would never change her mind. It was just the latest and worst example of her horrid behavior. I never told my aunt, but I did tell other members of my extended family when they asked why I didn’t talk to them anymore.
Was your mom a right wing christian? cause that sounds like the kind of sadistic glee you only get from a right wing christian.
Extremely. She and my dad were Catholic, and she was so right wing that she forced us to find a new church because our pastor said that we should treat non-Catholics and non-christians with respect because good works, not belief, is the key to salvation and the best form of worship.
Jesus. That doesn’t sound like a momentary lapse in judgment the way you describe it, but a trait. Must have been horrendous. Well done for not turning out like that.
Yeah, it was not the first time I saw that kind of emotional sadism from her, but it was the one that made me realize that she literally thought some people deserved to die for things they ultimately had little to no control over.
Thankfully my dad is a bit more levelheaded (though he still enabled her) and I have a lot of extended family who also can’t stand her. I credit them as being the main reason I didn’t end up continuing the abuse cycle.
Told my friend that he’s like the son he never had, in front of me.
I assume that was absolutely calculated for maximum pain. I’m so sorry.
Thanks. It really fucked me up for a long time. ;-;
Being a parent myself now I still can’t understand how you can intentionally inflict pain on your own children. I’ve been trying to understand my whole life.
a narcissistic parents does, they do it in 2 ways, either coddle you so you never launch and become dependant on them forever, or manipulate people around you so are dependant on them.
I think the part of their humanity that feels empathy, bonds, compassion and so on are completely absent in some people. But more than that, not only are they incapable of feeling or reciprocating love and empathy, they also have a sadistic appetite for other people’s suffering and little else can satiate them.
Remembering all the times growing up when teachers suggested I get tested for ADHD and my mom would refuse because she “wanted me to be me, not a zombie” but was wildly disastrous for my future. Now she claims she has it too.
Then she voted for trump 3X.
Sounds familiar, my 3rd grade teacher flagged me for ADD, but my parents were anti-psychology and in the “he’s just being a typical energetic kid. The lack of supports left me an awkward kid, who developed an unhealthy eating habit to get enough dopamine, which they then mocked me for and belittled my struggle to manage my weight. My wife witnessed it firsthand when I first brought her and my 2 year old son to visit, I broke down from embarrassment but she stood up and yelled at them for like 30 minutes about their wretched behavior. She definitely was the best choice in my life.
Your wife sounds wonderful ❤️
My father controlling me up to the age of 18, and preventing me from doing anything I wanted at home or at school (it was a prison, not the regular “school is boring”). The result is that I did nothing at school because I had anxiety 24 hours a day.
When I became an adult, I didn’t knew what money or taxes were, I didn’t knew that I had to take showers (because homework is more important), and I didn’t knew how to use toilet paper. I used to take a bath once every two weeks because why not instead of taking daily showers. It took me 10 years to learn basic stuff like cooking or washing my ass.
Now that he’s old and dying, he wants me to listen to his advice and help him with his phone and computer. I don’t answer to such demands. And I’m pretty sure that when he dies, I’ll only be sad for my mother, not him.
Choosing to invite my Jan 6er uncle to family events knowing I would never break break with an insurrectionist traitor.
First, I stopped attending family events. Eventually went no contact. Now my happiest recent memory of my mom is when my daughter couldn’t remember her name.
I adopted a baby from a different race and my father only talks about the white one, refused to meet the other kid.
father in law posted KKK shit on his Facebook page.
we’ll just prune those two branches now…
Well, that’s unfortunate. But at least you know the correct response.
I’m sorry and good riddance to them.
I already had a rocky relationship with my dad after he made some questionable statements concerning COVID, but there are 2 distinct memories that just keep popping up.
No 1 was him helping me move into my own apartment while my maternal grandfather was dying in the hospital. We were talking about vaccinations (a requirement to visit patients) and how me and my brother got one, he started tearing up and said something about how kids shouldn’t die before their parents, how egotistical we were for getting vaccinated, and how we’ll die in 2 years.
No 2 was a few years later, we were standing on the sidewalk after having watched a movie, and someone had hung a pride flag from their balcony across the street. And while I’m not part of the LGBTQ community, I have good friends that are, and am firmly of the opinion that people should be allowed to do who and whatever they want to, as long as everyone involved consents. However, my dad apparently felt important enough to complain about how that’s just “gay propaganda” and how he “isn’t against it but they shouldn’t force it into everyone’s face” and so on.
My guy, it’s a flag. On a balcony. On the 4th fucking floor!? Chill out.And yet motherfuckers are still allowed to hang a Confederate battle flag off of their house and nobody burns their shit down. So yeah, I don’t want to hear anyone’s whining about a pride flag.
My mother once said to me she didn’t appreciate how The Gays had to be “all in your face about it.” Oh, shit, Mom. Did two guys force you to watch them make out at the store? Cause that’d be in your face about it. She was the reason I was homophobic until I was 20.
Refused to acknowledge cystic fibrosis is actually a real difficult struggle that I needed help and support with
Shit man, I feel that. How are you these days?
I’m post lung transplant and doing a lot better but I still haven’t gotten over having to shoulder so much when I shouldn’t have had to
I’m 19 years post Tx.
In the middle of a divorce, finally decided to see a therapist.
Having the feeling of inevitable doom my whole life probably didn’t do me any favors, especially how I approached things I felt were dumb, unimportant and a waste of what i felt was my limited time.
That said it’s extremely difficult to get me upset by most things that I still see as trivial now. So I ended up with the reputation of being extremely chill and laid back. I just always felt I had limited time and energy and I wasn’t going to waste it of crap that didn’t matter.
I think I ended up with a lot of general empathy, especially for people whose issues go mostly unnoticed or ignored by most people.
It also made me fiercely independent. Spent the last few years helping my wife recover from a major surgery and diagnosis only to be hit with divorce papers.
I’m looking forward to just worrying about myself for a while.
Anyways. Always nice to run into a fellow post-transplant CF’r in the wild.
There are so many things.
After I was in a car accident in college, my mom convinced me that it was too risky to take my car to a shop in the city where I lived, so I let her take it to her own mechanic.
Months went by, and every time I asked about it, she claimed it was still at the shop and she had no idea why it was taking so long.
After I lost both my jobs because I didn’t have reliable transportation, I found out that my mom hadn’t taken my car to the shop.
She had been letting my younger brother, who still lived at home, drive my (unrepaired!) car to community college so she didn’t have to give him a ride.
I bet they’d been looking for an excuse for years to nab your car and give it to him.










