With the rise of cancel culture, it’s something that’s got me curious, why are so many works (music, literature, tv shows, etc.) no longer separated from their controversial makers? Is it purely to do with money (e.g. not wanting to give money to people you don’t agree with?) and what about controversial people who are dead? They don’t gain anything, so why isn’t the art separated from the artist? What’s your opinion on this topic?

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      You should try asking yourself how artists create art. Where did that art come from that you so badly want to disconnect from the artist’s mind that produced it? What ideas is the artist expressing that you’re choosing to ignore?

      What ideas did the artist also hold that are the reason the rest of human society decided that this artists art did not need to persist?

      For example - These are questions that anyone involved in anything “Lovecraftian” needs to answer for themselves.

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        I understand that, but it’s irrelevant. My point is: not all art is political. Just because some people say a particular piece is political, it doesn’t make it so.

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          My point is: not all art is political.

          Everything is political. You have just lived such a privileged life that you haven’t been required to see why.

          You have “just gotten” things throughout your life that others have had to fight for. And you now take it for granted that everyone has your same experience. Not everyone is so privileged because the people who operate the systems that benefit you, are taking far too much from others in order for you to have those privileges.

          As soon as you start seeing the things that others are forced to do that you’ve never had to confront, then you will understand why everything is political. Then you will understand what a disservice you’re doing to your fellow man by not doing your part to ensure everyone else gets the privileges you already take for granted.

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              You don’t know my life, my hardships etc. don’t pretend you do.

              You thinking that’s what I’m doing is why I’m saying what I’m saying.

              You haven’t yet matured to the point where you understand not everything everyone else says and does is about you. Other people live rich, detailed lives that are completely unlike your own and you will never understand the huge varieties of ways the world works until you get outside your own tiny, self-centered universe.

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                  It’s cute that you think you’re being judged, kiddo.

                  Give it a couple decades. Maybe with experience, you’ll understand the old saying that youth is wasted on the young.

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                    That’s fine, this is more out of curiosity.

                    You say that everything (presumably every art, every idea) we have is political because it’s about how we communicate with others.

                    What about the ideas we never share? What about the ideas we have but we never tell anyone else? Would you say they were political? If so, why, if those ideas are never meant to be communicated/for communication?