Your logic fails miserably on the fact the the guys were drunk too. If your logic applies, she also raped them. But of course, they are male, so I guess that is not a problem in your head.
PS: Also, we as society don’t accept alcohol as an excuse in any other context. You were drunk and someone convinced you to drive? Prison for you. You were drunk and interpreted something as consent that wasn’t? Straight to prison. But you gave consent while drunk? That is everyone elses problem. The poor you can’t be responsible for your choices cause you were drunk. Everyone else needs to go to prison, for not doing alcohol and drug tests before accepting a clear “yes” as consent. Ridiculous.
she didn’t call her friends in to have sex with those guys for hours on end. they did. they weren’t high and dunk enough to fail to call in several other men to have sex with her. there’s also a legal different between choosing to do something and lacking the ability to stop other from doing something to you. again, she didn’t call in more men to fuck the guys she was using with for hours on end. I bet if she did, you’d be singing a differently tune, because logically you don’t fight for maximum victim blaming when you’re not REALLY upset women might be treated with respect a little. I hope your garbage behavior is a lack of life experience and you learn to stop being this way, if not, let’s see that rap sheet!!
You making up a different version of events from what I described and then convincing yourself I am a bad person based on that despite me clearly stating what I was referring to makes you a shitty person, not me. If she did not consent to explicit images being taken and/or distributed, those are crimes. If people she did not consent to fucked her, that is rape. No one is disputing that. You are just attacking me based on your own delusions or poor reading comprehension.
No, you’re ignoring the “and then that person says you raped them part.” There’s no indication from before, during, or after they raped her that she coerced the men into something they didn’t want.
So if the exact same thing happened and Jane Doe didn’t call it rape after, that fine? Same act, same level of ability to consent.
In reverse, you therefore also believe all the men can now sue HER for rape? Because they decided afterwards?
So you admit it’s just the regret after that makes it a rape in your mind? Besides, if it had any legal meaning, I am sure they would be saying that to get out of trouble. But it doesn’t, because that would be stupid. Someone regretting they agreed after can’t be criminal, because you have no way of knowing the future. How the fuck would you ever be able to act on consent, if that person can just change their mind later and make it a crime.
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Your logic fails miserably on the fact the the guys were drunk too. If your logic applies, she also raped them. But of course, they are male, so I guess that is not a problem in your head.
PS: Also, we as society don’t accept alcohol as an excuse in any other context. You were drunk and someone convinced you to drive? Prison for you. You were drunk and interpreted something as consent that wasn’t? Straight to prison. But you gave consent while drunk? That is everyone elses problem. The poor you can’t be responsible for your choices cause you were drunk. Everyone else needs to go to prison, for not doing alcohol and drug tests before accepting a clear “yes” as consent. Ridiculous.
she didn’t call her friends in to have sex with those guys for hours on end. they did. they weren’t high and dunk enough to fail to call in several other men to have sex with her. there’s also a legal different between choosing to do something and lacking the ability to stop other from doing something to you. again, she didn’t call in more men to fuck the guys she was using with for hours on end. I bet if she did, you’d be singing a differently tune, because logically you don’t fight for maximum victim blaming when you’re not REALLY upset women might be treated with respect a little. I hope your garbage behavior is a lack of life experience and you learn to stop being this way, if not, let’s see that rap sheet!!
You making up a different version of events from what I described and then convincing yourself I am a bad person based on that despite me clearly stating what I was referring to makes you a shitty person, not me. If she did not consent to explicit images being taken and/or distributed, those are crimes. If people she did not consent to fucked her, that is rape. No one is disputing that. You are just attacking me based on your own delusions or poor reading comprehension.
No, you’re ignoring the “and then that person says you raped them part.” There’s no indication from before, during, or after they raped her that she coerced the men into something they didn’t want.
So if the exact same thing happened and Jane Doe didn’t call it rape after, that fine? Same act, same level of ability to consent. In reverse, you therefore also believe all the men can now sue HER for rape? Because they decided afterwards?
So you admit it’s just the regret after that makes it a rape in your mind? Besides, if it had any legal meaning, I am sure they would be saying that to get out of trouble. But it doesn’t, because that would be stupid. Someone regretting they agreed after can’t be criminal, because you have no way of knowing the future. How the fuck would you ever be able to act on consent, if that person can just change their mind later and make it a crime.
consent is something that cannot be revoked days after it happened, either it was consensual when it was occurring or it wasn’t