• Zensate@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Ah yes, to hear your own opinion through someone else’s mouth. Echochamber ventriloquism.

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      3 days ago

      No. What I expect is that if someone is coming at something from a wildly different perspective than the status quo - for example, “judges shouldn’t be allowed to prevent juries from hearing anything from a defendant,” then they be able to present literally any argument for that. I’ve had dozens of replies in this thread that either could not do that or could not articulate why that was not their perspective.

      Instead, they want to take it as read that the status quo is wrong. The status quo could very well be wrong but everyone who has come to that conclusion through actual reason rather than unexamined emotion can say why. Of the dozens of replies I think only one person demonstrated that ability.

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        3 days ago

        Don’t confuse your capacity to understand with other people’s capacity to explain.

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          3 days ago

          No individual really has any way to discern the two, from their own perspective. Except in retrospect, anyway. One can only guess, based on an assessment of one’s own general intelligence and linguistic facility. Which obviously is not something you, an internet stranger, have any access to.

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            3 days ago

            It’s actually pretty simple, if you’re superior to everyone else you’re living in a delusion created to couch your own inferiority complex.

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              3 days ago

              Luckily that’s not what I believe. But people in this particular thread have been incredibly disappointing

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                  3 days ago

                  If I’m saying that people are disappointing then it means they’re less than my expectation and thus not confirming anything.

                  In contrast, you confirm the expectations I have developed of you in particular with each successive reply.

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                    3 days ago

                    Yes, it’s classic Donning-krueger.

                    Anything that would disprove your confirmation bias is simply filtered out.