Crossposted from https://infosec.pub/post/52518361

The TV world has been a pot of controversy thanks to a two-hour-and-15-minute video from Gamers Nexus claiming LG TVs are nefariously spying on everything you do. They can record and store audio even when they seem to be off, track everything you watch, and could even be hacked remotely and turned into covert surveillance […]

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    21 hours ago

    How to tell if something is possibly spying on you:

    1. Can it connect to the internet?
    2. Is the firmware/software controlled by a corporation?
    3. Does it have sensors capable of surveillance, like a microphone or camera?
    • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
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      22 hours ago

      I’m concerned you may not even need to connect it to the internet. It may be enough for a neighbor to leave their WiFi unsecured. The TV may very well watch for one and use it to upload.

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        18 hours ago

        It can be even worse than that. It can use other TVs in the neighborhood that are connected to the internet and just proxy it through them. It’s called a mesh network.

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          16 hours ago

          Is there evidence of that? Or is this also like saying an unconnected TV might be slipped the WiFi password by a connected dishwasher through a series of ultrasonic beeps? Sure, not impossible, but also not likely in every home.

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            16 hours ago

            I recall seeing an article about it a while ago but I couldn’t find anything via a google search so I guess take it with a big grain of salt.

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              15 hours ago

              Right. So, I’m a privacy advocate, and there’s a looooooot of conspiracy theory stuff like this out there. Yes, there are real versions of this, but companies are also notoriously cheap. There’s a point of diminishing returns on how many components they’re going to slap on a board in hopes of netting data on 1000 more users. Something that costs 2 cents more per board will go into millions of devices and cost hundreds of thousands over a production run… To net $30,000 of data? Experiments usually fizzle based on that math. They’re very often glad to have the fools that connect the TV themselves, which is an increasing proportion of consumers, I think about 65%+ of them last I checked. They’re already eating well without getting overly silly and crazy about how these things work.

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        20 hours ago

        May be. I’m still waiting for someone to show me a case of that happening, because I’ve been unable to find one.

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          6 hours ago

          I’ve never seen proof it happens, so it might not, but I sure as shit wouldn’t suggest it to them if they haven’t thought of it yet.

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        19 hours ago

        Cellular modems are getting cheaper. Maybe in a few years they’re looking for Meshtastic nodes.

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          6 hours ago

          Yeah, fully broadcast SSID with no password, blatantly obvious to any who look and free to access for any who try.