I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because “I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it” which is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    i’m not going to deny that the USSR would have suffered more without lend-lease, but that’s true of any alliance member receiving material support.

    the issue i see is that when people talk about this, 27 million to 1.7 million loss ratio gets passed through the narrative and emerges as an equal partnership. Yes the USSR got like 10 billion in material from the US, but the eastern front was 70-80% of the entire german war effort. The lend lease didn’t even arrive in significant amounts until after the battle for stalingrad.

    the OOP comment that OP replied to was this, on the subject of how the US hasn’t won a war:

    they [the US] didn’t win wwii, the soviets did.

    d-day could not have happened without the soviets turning the tide on their own. you can call it a group effort but that makes it sound like it was equal participation.

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      6 days ago

      Girl, I’m not here to downplay the contributions of the USSR nor did I. I’m also not OOP. I know basic history. You already said that you object to calling it a group effort. What was the point of this comment?