• terwn43lp@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago

        there are millions of homeless animals, shelters are at capacity, and animals are euthanized by the thousands. paying money for something you can get for free is idiotic and unethical

        i also feel this way about human adoption, but that’s another argument

        • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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          8 hours ago

          paying money for something you can get for free is idiotic and unethical

          i also feel this way about human adoption, but that’s another argument

          I don’t know if you understand the adoption process…but even after hospital bills (assuming insurance), making a baby is a lot less expensive than adopting.

          Hitting max-OOP on most HDHPs (Glossary for non-Americans – Maximum-Out-of-Pocket; High-Deductible Health Plan) itself is less expensive than “cheap” adoptions. (And for most healthy couples of child-bearing age, HDHP’s are already the more economical choice for health insurance, especially if you are contributing to HSA (Health Savings Account)…can only get that with an HDHP, and fuck FSAs)

          And I haven’t heard of any (human) orphanages that euthanize kids they can’t find a home for, at least not this century. It wouldn’t surprise me, in this timeline, though.

      • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social
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        22 hours ago

        Internet has a hard-on for virtue-signaling and black-and-white perspective, and “adopt, don’t shop” is one of those. There is nothing wrong with ethical, responsible breeding.

        There is, however, a lot wrong with unethical breeding (e.g. doll-face persians, scottish folds, pugs, frenchies, showline GSDs, etc., and backyard breeding as a whole) and official breed standards set by people who only care about the looks and not the health of the animal.

        • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          15 hours ago

          There is nothing wrong with ethical, responsible breeding.

          Except that almost no one does it and 90% of breeders are just people having their animals fuck in their backyard.

          Source: numbers came out of my ass, but I know a breeder and they were the second kind and agree.

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            10 hours ago

            90% of breeders are just people having their animals fuck in their backyard.

            where do the animals fuck in the other 10%? Front yard?

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          13 hours ago

          Purebred = inbred. You can whitewash the process all you want, there’s simply no way to make “purebreds” that isn’t inherently unethical.

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            11 hours ago

            I’mma be honest, I’ve never heard “whitewash” used in this context. Had to look up the definition, and it turns out every other time I’ve heard it used was incorrect. Life is a fascinating ride.

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          12 hours ago

          I mean coming from someone who thinks treating pets as property is fucked up I don’t think it’s that hard to convince me that making them in a factory is a bad idea

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          16 hours ago

          Don’t stop there. Keep explaining the problems with breeding while you talk shit about people who actually give a shit.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          16 hours ago

          Oh you must know op personally then.

          Otherwise, why else would you accuse someone of “virtue signaling,” before going on to list a bunch of real issues with it?