There are actually lots of surveys and studies done on this subject by schools, governmental, and financial institutions. They all have a pretty heavy stake in what degrees loans are being handed out for and whether that person will be able to repay it. There’s really no need to speculate because there’s lots of data out there.
The NY Fed found people who earned diplomas in criminal justice are the most affected, with a 67.2 percent underemployment rate. They were followed by majors in performing arts at 62.3 percent, medical technicians at 57.9 percent, liberal arts at 56.5 percent, and anthropology at 55.9 percent.
Excuse me what does libral art refers to here? In my head, half of STEM are libral art subjects: math, physics, chemistry, economics, psychlogy, sociology, and etc.
That is way too big of an umbrella
They cannot by that unemployable
Liberal arts education (from Latin liberalis ‘free’ and ars ‘art or principled practice’)[1] is a traditional academic course in Western higher education, which traditionally covers the natural and formal sciences, social sciences, arts, and humanities.
Yeah I’m a nurse and this article tracks. I get callbacks on applications within a week of submission or sometimes same day. Are they good jobs? Maybe. But there’s no shortage of them.
But this article also highlights something I’ve always said about cops, whose degrees are basically worthless according to this article. A degree isn’t necessary for their job while it’s literally illegal for me to not have one as well as a license that can be revoked if I fuck up bad enough.
Cops imo have a similar level of responsibility if not for health specifically definitely for safety. They should have to be licensed and that license should be overseen by a public safety board that can remove it. You should be able to maybe get a 3-6 month certificate or something to ticket people for parking in handicapped spots or noise disturbances but you should need at LEAST an associates to carry a gun in the protection of public safety, preferably a bachelors and in addition to martial arts it should cover everything from law, basic / developmental psych, basic first aid and how to identify when a disturbance is probably being caused by a medical problem that needs eval after it’s been safely contained etc.
I do actually believe there is a need for public safety officials who can show up and stop people from injuring each other but we really need to up our expectations for ethics and competency.
Yeah, the average length of training in the US for officers is 6 months. That means there’s places that require more and places that require less. There are almost 20,000 individual departments in the US with varying rules and requirements. In Germany you can’t even carry a gun on the force without a 4 year degree.
Some fields fluctuate… Like, kids hear that engineers are in demand or whatever, and sign up to uni for the job prospects, but so to heaps of others, so 5 years later when they’re done, the market’s already stabilised and now there’s an oversupply…
Probably not most of those fields you mentioned, but it’s still something to keep in mind… Don’t pick something that’s only recently gone up in demand.
Yeah, comp sci is rough right now. The entire industry is extremely toxic. There’s a reason the old “this repo is archived; have taken up farming” meme resonates so strongly with programmers.
radiology tech earn good money(just very hard to get into if you are going the CC route,20k+people waiting for colleges that only teaches 20-30students a year, extremely long waiting list makes it not worth it) alternative path is paying for a university program somewhat expensive but you will get employed faster.
MLT, i heard theres very little jobs for this one though, and its meant for the more “prestigious” CLS program(if you dint have the initial academic/credentials for the CLS program) so you would take a longer process to become a MLT than try to become a CLS( the schools teaching CLS is super limited hence the competition, and even smaller teach MLT, and the new abridge program doesnt alleviate the competition). dont know if pharm tech counts, but i dont think they are having employment issues, just the annoyance of a license.
Yeah, I knew plenty of data exists and I think it has a place in this thread. I’m also curious to hear people’s opinions on here. Never know whose an HR manager or hiring person. I appreciate the info you provided! I’m particularly suprised by the medical tech one. I guess I always think of those as certs or associates level. CJ is kinda surprising too.
I want to have a conversation about a thing. If I just wanted data I’d google it. Having the data is good to help facilitate the conversation but this is an ask post. It’s an open ended questions that encourages discourse.
There are actually lots of surveys and studies done on this subject by schools, governmental, and financial institutions. They all have a pretty heavy stake in what degrees loans are being handed out for and whether that person will be able to repay it. There’s really no need to speculate because there’s lots of data out there.
https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/5-college-degrees-that-are-least-likely-to-land-new-grads-a-job/91248833
Excuse me what does libral art refers to here? In my head, half of STEM are libral art subjects: math, physics, chemistry, economics, psychlogy, sociology, and etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education
Yeah I’m a nurse and this article tracks. I get callbacks on applications within a week of submission or sometimes same day. Are they good jobs? Maybe. But there’s no shortage of them.
But this article also highlights something I’ve always said about cops, whose degrees are basically worthless according to this article. A degree isn’t necessary for their job while it’s literally illegal for me to not have one as well as a license that can be revoked if I fuck up bad enough.
Cops imo have a similar level of responsibility if not for health specifically definitely for safety. They should have to be licensed and that license should be overseen by a public safety board that can remove it. You should be able to maybe get a 3-6 month certificate or something to ticket people for parking in handicapped spots or noise disturbances but you should need at LEAST an associates to carry a gun in the protection of public safety, preferably a bachelors and in addition to martial arts it should cover everything from law, basic / developmental psych, basic first aid and how to identify when a disturbance is probably being caused by a medical problem that needs eval after it’s been safely contained etc.
I do actually believe there is a need for public safety officials who can show up and stop people from injuring each other but we really need to up our expectations for ethics and competency.
The fact you have to be licensed and go through years (decades?) of study, training, etc, to help people medically…
But you don’t need to do that to get a free pass to assault and shoot people…
Is something…
Yeah, the average length of training in the US for officers is 6 months. That means there’s places that require more and places that require less. There are almost 20,000 individual departments in the US with varying rules and requirements. In Germany you can’t even carry a gun on the force without a 4 year degree.
i suspect in more red states, its faster training. in places like cali there might be more extensive process.
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Some fields fluctuate… Like, kids hear that engineers are in demand or whatever, and sign up to uni for the job prospects, but so to heaps of others, so 5 years later when they’re done, the market’s already stabilised and now there’s an oversupply…
Probably not most of those fields you mentioned, but it’s still something to keep in mind… Don’t pick something that’s only recently gone up in demand.
Me in comp sci rn when hs me saw tech had most jobs available
Yeah, comp sci is rough right now. The entire industry is extremely toxic. There’s a reason the old “this repo is archived; have taken up farming” meme resonates so strongly with programmers.
Didn’t Farming While Beige literally do that?
Wasn’t meant to be a reply. Moved.
Woohoo I’m the in the 54.1% of employed anthropology majors! Not that my work has anything to do with it anyway.
I’m just gonna leave this here: https://seanheath.ca/2024/02/22/noah-the-slave-pirate/
interesting which medical technicians?
radiology tech earn good money(just very hard to get into if you are going the CC route,20k+people waiting for colleges that only teaches 20-30students a year, extremely long waiting list makes it not worth it) alternative path is paying for a university program somewhat expensive but you will get employed faster.
MLT, i heard theres very little jobs for this one though, and its meant for the more “prestigious” CLS program(if you dint have the initial academic/credentials for the CLS program) so you would take a longer process to become a MLT than try to become a CLS( the schools teaching CLS is super limited hence the competition, and even smaller teach MLT, and the new abridge program doesnt alleviate the competition). dont know if pharm tech counts, but i dont think they are having employment issues, just the annoyance of a license.
Yeah, I knew plenty of data exists and I think it has a place in this thread. I’m also curious to hear people’s opinions on here. Never know whose an HR manager or hiring person. I appreciate the info you provided! I’m particularly suprised by the medical tech one. I guess I always think of those as certs or associates level. CJ is kinda surprising too.
That reads like you prefer anecdotes over data.
I want to have a conversation about a thing. If I just wanted data I’d google it. Having the data is good to help facilitate the conversation but this is an ask post. It’s an open ended questions that encourages discourse.
Makes sense, engagement is often the point of social media. 👍