• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    This has nothing to do with design or actual crimes. People are scared because the media is scarring them. The numbers of abductions are actually dropping but people are more and more scared because child predators were made into the bogeyman of the XXI century. It’s a well known fact that crime perception in US does not align with actual crime statistics. Cars have nothing to do with it.

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      I was going to mention that none of the streets have changed where my parents live from when I grew up but it does seem much sketchier. There’s more roaming homeless people from nearby freeway encampments, and cars appear to drive more dangerously or the drivers are distracted with their phones

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        It’s all very anecdotal but where I lived you could get from my apartment building to the playground without crossing any streets. All kids were just running around unsupervised starting at 6-7yo (for me it was closer to 5yo). The entire playground was just communist style metal constructions. I cut myself on rusty nails, was hit by a metal swing and twisted my ankle while jumping off the top of a slide. Today the entire playground was replaced by wooden, safe toys and I can’t imagine kids playing there unsupervised. Times have changed. It’s simple as that.

        What I had:

        What kids have today:

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          In my country these fancier playgrounds are like a few per city, whereas the soviet ones were (are) much more common, so a side effect is that you could’ve gone to that top photo without crossing any streets, versus your parents would take you to the bottom one (either walk you there or go by car)

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      Jane Jacobs wrote about this in like the 1960s. More regular people on the street makes people feel safer. It probably actually makes people safer, too.

      So, yes, car-first culture makes crime and fear worse. A local neighborhood with people walking about doing their business is safer than one where people just drive, park, and leave.

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        IMHO saying that “car culture -> less people walking -> more crime -> more fear -> less kids on the streets” is a bit of a stretch. I’m sure it can be true in some areas but is far from universal rule. European cities are very walkable yet no one lets small kids play outside alone. Many villages are way less walkable yet kids play outside alone without issues. This meme tries to imply that kids don’t play outside because of cars yet it’s only one of contributing factors and only in some places.

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          IMHO saying that “car culture -> less people walking -> more crime -> more fear -> less kids on the streets” is a bit of a stretch.

          That’s not the claim. The claim is “car culture -> less people walking -> more crime -> more fear -> less kids on the streets.” The perception matters; the reality doesn’t.

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            More people from more walks of life (pun intended) on the street probably does reduce some types of crime, though. You’re not going to be mugged on the street outside two busy restaurants and a record shop with a bunch of other people walking around.