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It’s still the video to “all is full of love” by Björk for me. I found the style and pacing so intriguing that I heavily copied it for a computer animation I did at University.

https://youtu.be/u0cS1FaKPWY

What other group? There are only us humans. I know, delusional 😅 Getting back to the killing… that’s the only part I’m concerned with. So yes, my solution is a civilized penal system. Here, prisoners don’t live like animals or slaves, yet, in my view, they still serve their sentences in a way that constitutes just atonement. So I don’t know what’s the problem with that.

And again, we’re talking about death here. So we’re dealing with very serious crimes, and I don’t get the impression that repeat violent offenders are walking around free at all. And even if so, there’s a million ways of dealing with this other than simply killing the people!

1. Yes.

2. No. Reality is more complex.

3. Trying to convince yourself that killing another human being is something to feel good about is always stupid and primitive. That is what my comments are about, and as I understand it, what this discussion is about. We built complex societies so we wouldn’t have to live by the rule of “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth,” and I am not going to turn back on that path just because of Trump, Putin, or Netanjahu. The truth is, the vast majority of people living all over the world are ordinary people who deserve love, justice, and a future.

   And yes, you shoot at the mass shooter. But where I live, police officers are trained so that the perpetrator survives—in order to subject him to his just! punishment. Which is not death.

Yes I think we should not have killed them. What an easy way out for them…

More so I think, if we’re not fostering a culture of killing again we might get over it completely some days.

But obviously you guys here don’t like that, feels too good to be full of anger and hate wa? 😅

Yes we have and when you look at the last century you will see a lot of progress.

What I understand of your comment, based on the context of the post, is, that because things are bad it’s okay for us to be bad as well. That’s really the easiest way to fool yourself.

I’m not. Do you even have an argument?

No. Criminals by definition do not play by the rules and we as a society have found many ways to deal with them without killing them.

I’m not arguing against justice.

I’m just saying, that, on a fundamental level, it is never okay to kill another person or make up stupidly simplified metaphors to justify killing.

It’s dehumanizing brain rot and if you guys can’t see that you’re really not much better than the made up devils you wish to kill.

No. I consider someone anti-life that argues killing is basically okay if you think it’s okay. It’s a made up comic and not one of us really knows what the bad guy did.

But the tone in this comment section feels more like: yeah sure killing others is totally fine if we just find a reason to feel good about it. Wtf? What low level trigger would be okay for you to kill another person without feeling bad?

I’m not the police on a specific mission and I’m not in a country where we have mass shooting. But even in this case I would argue that we badly need to find ways to prevent mass shooting instead of being okay with killing the shooter.

As for crime in general… The more civilized society is the one without the death penalty.

Dehumanizing imaginary people and ease of mind with it, that’s what’s happening here.

Killing anyone is never justifiable! There are millions of ways for a society to deal or even to prevent dangerous people other than killing them.

It absolutely does. Absolutely disgusting the number of times I have to read in this community that it’s okay to kill because of blah blah blah. Horrible people! You are all horrible people for supporting such an anti-life mindset!

What happened?