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Why, what happened on the 9th of November?
Plenty of things in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_November_in_German_history
Ah yes, I remember the wall in 1989
I dunno, but remember, remember the fifth of November.
He is either not a US American, or the “Never Forget” nation forgot to properly teach him.
I live in one of those “never forget” nations that promised to never forget something… but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.
I feel you so much right now.
Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.
he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught
see: forgot to properly teach him.
I’d say they made the attempt, but if he didn’t listen that much, the problem is them passing him, not attempting to teach him.
that is definitely a problem of the US education system. The “no child left behind” policy is absolute garbage.
COMPLETELY agreed. No Child Left Behind made WAY too many fucking idiots think that they’re up to standard of “functioning human being”, when that is demonstrably not the case.
He doesn’t look that young. I can’t imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasn’t as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.
If he’s from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.
i’d say anyone under 35 wasn’t really aware for it.
Yeah, this is definitely wrong. My younger brothers are significantly younger than 35 right now, and they still remember where they were when it happened.
nonexistent?
2026-2001=25
36-25=11
11>0
🙄 Your math is bad. Read what they said closer
35 might be an exaggeration, they would have been around 9 years old, old enough to remember something.
Well, the number of people talking about the 3 planes getting hijacked on another thread makes me think we’ve forgotten at least a little bit.
I quit my first real job on 9/11. I watched the buildings go down, walked into the deli I hated working at and said, “life is too short.” Which for an 18 year old me was a pretty big move.
I had a job in Colorado at a small 20-30 person company, including two devout muslim immigrant men from Afghanistan. OMG, they were freaking the fuck out, thinking people were going to come drag them out of the office and murder them in the parking lot. Everybody had their back and tried to calm them down, but boy, they were so stressed out.
Americans went nuts after 9/11. It was weird how all of a sudden, it was ok to be openly racist. Up to then, I knew older people were racist, but were being shamed into keeping quiet and it was fading from younger generations, but 9/11 set all that back. They were right to be scared.
Had a French teacher in high school who was from Morocco, and Muslim. He had some pretty harrowing stories from the years following 9/11. Said the harassment started immediately that day, before he had even seen the news.
The most extreme of them involved him and his family being targeted at home with a drive-by shooting. Said some of the rounds missed his daughter by inches right where she was sleeping.
There were several different attacks, and attempted attacks, which varied in the level of violence, but all were random acts of opportunity during otherwise hum-drum quotidien activities, like grocery shopping and pumping gas. Literal IRL terrorism, but the perpetrators were always white so… y’know.
He recounted the feeling of being hunted as urban prey by bat-guano crazy rednecks…chilling.
That vibe quieted down by the 2010s, but now it’s come roaring back. MAGA is like three 9/11s in a trench coat.
I mean, if they were in Texas they probably have a reason to worry
they still had cause to worry in Colorado. people were fucking crazy
“Why’s it called 9/11 if it happened in September though?”
what i kinda don’t get about this whole thing … is that kinda, in other countries (look at the middle east), they get bombed daily and none of you bats an eye (well, some do, but still, this has been going on for 50 years and i hardly ever hear anyone talking about it). meanwhile you get one terrorist attack and everyone’s supposed to lose their minds over this.
The US never gets attacked. There’s an ally to the north, an ally to the south, and two big fucking oceans to the east and west. So, when it does happen, it’s a pretty big deal.
People outside the US dont care or aren’t expected to care about 9/11. Americans are loud and own the platforms so it seems like the entire world but its really just them treating the entire internet like an American fourm.
People in NZ still schzio out about a French terrorist attack that happened to us 40 years ago. I still see news bring it up.
It’s just so blown up because it hurt american pride.
I lost 14 colleagues and none of them were American. Was the response overblown? Yes. But it’s called the “World” Trade center for a reason.
America has been punching and kicking countless countries since WWII, causing thousands if not millions of deaths (Iraqi “freedom” alone caused like 300.000 Iraqi deaths IIRC) and the second that somebody punches back and gives them a bloody nose its all crying and needing to make 50 movies about the heroes of that day, and of course it was immediately used to implement the “patriot” act (hint, it has shit to do with patriotism and everything with making the IS an autocratic state)
I get it, of course. For the individuals that died or were injured that day, it’s a tragedy, but as a country? They completely deserved it and much, much more
What it was used to justify is unforgivable, but please remember that a population of ~350m people is not a monolith. Our government is garbage, but many of us were aware of what was being done in the name of “national security” and protesting /voting against it at the time.
Americans … protesting
You’re kidding, right? If Americans are incapable of doing anything, its protesting. And don’t tell me about the sad “no kings” protests, that was nothing.
I know that many Americans, maybe even most, don’t agree with US policies, but that is the problem: you’ve allowed a tiny rich minority to abuse your and other countries for well over a century and you haven’t done shit to stop that. Its gone on for so long that most left wing people in the USA are still having right wing ideas because you dont even know better
“At the time” referring to Bush-era police state codification.
“No kings” responds with some shit that happened like a year ago.
K.
Do you think maybe there’s a way to phrase that where you’re not saying that 2,000 innocent people deserved to die?
It was well over 3000 IIRC, and I did. It was a tragedy for the individuals and nobody deserved it but as a country it was more than well deserved.
You could say the same for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians that have been massacred over the past 7 decades by Israel with financial and arms support from the USA.
You could say the same about the 500.000+ Iraqis that have perished by operation desert storm
You could, bit you don’t
This is why I am saying that the individuals were innocent, but the nation is guilty as fuck. If the USA would be treated by it’s own rules on how it treats murder, it would have to kill itself over and over for thousands of years
And just on case you think I’m a tankie who just hates the USA, I’ll say the same for China, Russia, Israel, Iran, north Korea, and so on…
How about “The worlds most advanced military power allowed 2000 deaths to occur, all to further allow its parent state to tighten restrictions on free movement, increase surveillance on innocent civilians, and garner support for an invasion of an unrelated country?”
Should we double check, and make sure he knows what Pearl Harbor was? And Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? And the Holocaust?
What? It’s not unreasonable to say he may have missed some key moments in history.
I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
Edit to add
On 3 December 1984, over 500,000 people in the vicinity of the Union Carbide India Limited pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India, were exposed to the highly toxic gas methyl isocyanate, in what is considered the world’s worst industrial disaster.[3] A government affidavit in 2006 stated that the leak caused approximately 558,125 injuries, including 38,478 temporary partial injuries and 3,900 severely and permanently disabling injuries.[4] Estimates vary on the death toll, with the official number of immediate deaths being 2,259.[5] Others estimate that 8,000 died within two weeks of the incident occurring, and another 8,000 or more died from gas-related diseases.[6] In 1989, Union Carbide Corporation (UCC) of the United States paid $470 million (equivalent to $1.03 billion in 2024) to settle litigation stemming from the disaster.[7]
The first 3 are American, I could see a foreigner not knowing. My sister is a teacher in Europe and she says none of her students knew about the Holocaust. These are teenagers. I think maybe we might be fucked as a species.
What happened?
Some American heros crashed a plane
Are we sure even happened?
