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  • Interestingly, social stigma is one of the somewhat associated factors. But not the way one would think of: high stigma equals high suicide rate. Instead social stigma skews statistical data available. Somewhat under or over reporting. Essentially the more stigma around suicide, and also mental health, the less reliable the data. It is similar to how social attitudes about sexual violence distort the reliability of statistics about rape.



  • This is just an example. They are usually toxic and combative if anyone even slightly disagrees with the echo chamber. The post I took the image from has half of their comments deleted by mods. I’ve had a couple of instances of harassment, spam and threats. Always users from .ml

    But back to the point. Suicide is complex, and again, it has nothing to do with welfare state either. One of the most baffling things about suicide is that it’s rate of incidence is also independent of access to mental health care, suicide is almost independent from most of the typical socioeconomic factors we can think of. Look at Guyana and Uruguay. Exactly the same suicide rate. One is a country with development challenges, widespread poverty, troubled government, impoverished health care infrastructure and difficulty with access to mental health. The other is a wealthy country, with a long history of development, strong welfare state with great upward class mobility and mental health pioneers on the region. Both exact same suicide rate.


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    Sure it might be partially true (as per your link Taiwan’s rate is actually lower), the implication that thus North Korea is a good place to live on however doesn’t follow.

    As a psychologist, suicide is one of the most complex mental health phenomena. Most often than not, it is completely detached from life quality or living satisfaction. It’s multi factor and it says nothing of what the meme implies.

    Counterexamples exist. Rusia has a higher suicide rate than all of those countries, Cuba as well. And it doesnt get more capitalist than the UK and they also have a very low rate comparable to north Korea. Suicide has nothing to do with political ideology of the government in power.