• blackberry28@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I get increasingly the impression that the average Chinese lives a better live than the average US-American. Living conditions seem to improve in China, whereas they decline in the US.

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      6 days ago

      Certain aspects of life are bad in China.

      In the US, there was a failed conman and a failed reality TV character (same person) who campaigned on making the country worse but claimed it’d make the country better (while not actually expecting to get elected), and people decided that he should be president. They elected him again recently.

      The alternative party seems to campaign on “Let’s make the country less worse and more slowly”. Anyone who campaigns on making the country better doesn’t make it far in politics.

      So yeah, it makes sense that life in the US has been getting objectively worse.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah sure, unless you hold a picture of Winnie the Pooh in public. You’ll be arrested and imprisoned/disappeared for life… Or say anything about tiananmen square. You’ll get 7 years but for sure will be disappeared shortly before release. That’s the quality of life Lemmy users crave 😂😂😂

      Edit: BRING ON THE DOWNVOTES YOU HYPOCRITICAL AUTHORITARIAN WORSHIPPING TANKIES

      • Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        Can’t it be both? Can’t it be that there is higher life quality and also the regime can be bad? I mean I feel like there’s room to criticize both. And then reflect back on one’s own country.

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          Yes, of course. But it’s very important for some reasons to strongly associate better quality of life with poor political freedom.

          You know: just so that no one asks to take the good parts only.

      • blackberry28@sh.itjust.works
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        Well yeah sure China is not a utopia, but at least they have universal healthcare. I’d rather not be able to talk about certain things than not being able to afford medical bills. Imagine going into generational debt just for calling an ambulance. Just recently I read an article here on Lemmy where 92% of all US-Americans postpone going to the doctor because they can’t afford the bills. If this is not textbook sh*thole country, then I don’t know what is lol.

        And no, I am not glorifying China, I just think the comparison between the US and China is very interesting, because of how China is portrayed by Western Media often as a development country and how they lag far behind the Western World in terms of quality of living. Meanwhile the quality of living in the US is rapidly declining, although it is such a rich country and could easily afford at least the same standard of living you can see in Western Europe.

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          6 days ago

          So if Trump introduced universal healthcare in exchange for not being allowed to criticize his regime YOU’D BE ALL FOR IT? WOW

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      6 days ago

      Google the term “996 work culture”, or “migrant worker rights” and see if you want to stick to that statement afterwards.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah but can they own a bazooka-flamethrower combo or hurl racist slurs in public whenever they want? Checkmate.

    • Malica@lemmy.zip
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      6 days ago

      Watch some tourism videos of what China is like today and prepare to be envious

      • AviAdi@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        At least we get to vote. In China you get disappeared for trying to vote yet they SO SMART 🤓🤓🤓

        • huppakee@lemmy.world
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          6 days ago

          It’s not that they can’t vote, it’s that they get nothing else to vote for but The Party.

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            And if you try to challenge that party off you gooooooo

            Yet people will upvote the word China like it’s the gold standard 😂😂

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              That mechanic is what’s letting them succeed.

              Rather than winner-take-all elections where Party B spends 4 years unwinding everything Party A did in the last 4 years, the decisions can be made inside a party framework built for continuity.