Where is lawbreaking not just visible, but designed to be seen? Where is antisocial behaviour worn as a badge of honour? Where is pleasure gained directly from causing distress? And where is reckless endangerment often ignored by the police or treated with the mildest of punishments? The answer is on the roads.

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    This thread got me thinking. I think OP is correct that we need to stop doing the masculinity thing. If its a behavior change we are hoping for a better way to cause self reflection might be to use some of the noble features of what they think masculinity is. Does a protector drive like that and endanger everyone? Other peoples families / kids are also on the road. Would someone trust you to drive their loved ones around? Dont you want to be the guy everyone can count on to do the right thing and get us back safe?

    Hey man I saw you pull into the lot the other day. I was surprised cause don’t act like you would drive that way. Make them question how they are being perceived. A little manipulative but fuck it.

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      Yep. If you want to reach people it’s gotta be relevant to what they care about.

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      Nah, this doesn’t work. I tried to gently tell a guy at the gas station one time, in one of those huge lifted pickups, that he had his brights on (as a hint that his headlights were too fucking bright) and he freaked out on me, screaming, threatening, etc.

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        Gently doesn’t work and you were a stranger. These messages need to come from friends or acquaintances / coworkers / clients. The message needs to be delivered assertively while leaving them a small out to protect their ego.

        They won’t change in front of you, they need to process that on their own. Don’t rub their face in it if they change.

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          They won’t change

          shoulda stopped there. these idiots have made their entire culture about this trash and it’s killing us all.

          edit: I love how many car-thusiast dickheads are in #fuckcars

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            Listen dude I dont disagree largely, but people can and do change all the time. My posts are solution focused should you want to try something to the chuds in your life, be safe.

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              people can and do change all the time

              pfft. people die. that’s about it. look at how many carthusiast dickheads are in this thread defending cars.

              we’re going to die because they love their zoom zooms more than they can comprehend it’s killing the fucking thing that lets them breath and makes their food. And you’re defending them bwhahaha. don’t rub it in their face - why?

              THEY RUB IT INTO OUR LUNGS EVERY FUCKING DAY, HOW THICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO IGNORE THAT?

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                Do you want to be right or do you want things to improve? You don’t rub it in their face because its antagonizing and ultimately defeats the purpose of trying to help them see another way to act.

                Also not defending cars you dumbass.

                Also, do you eat meat? Animal ag contributes more to environmental decay than cars.

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                  things will never improve as long as they get to shit in your life without resistance. and good luck with the meat thing lol, you think getting them off their car fetish is bad good luck with that. you’re literally telling me to be nice to people who couldn’t give two fucks about you.

                  you’re defending the chuds, even worse than defending the cars.

                  pescatarian, not that it’s ANY of your fucking business, but great attempt to distract with other garbage.