so i just saw this post in the new all feed … was deleted the moment i wanted to open it for being “off topic”.

pls, everyone, be nice to new users. don’t just remove their first post for being “off topic”. we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users (link)

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    They came from Reddit, communities having their own rules which you’re supposed to read before posting isn’t an alien concept to them. I believe it’s justified to expect that much from them.

    Also, that post was restored pretty much right after it got removed.

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    That post is just setting off all kinds of alarm bells.

    What are the odds that something could impersonate them in a way that gets their account banned? And if that really did happen, why on earth would they not be able to talk about it?

    Shady AF.

    Off topic is off topic. Removing a post for violating rules isn’t mean, it’s maintaining the integrity of the communities people come here for.

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    Many people complain that there isn’t enough content on here, yet many people also expect all new users to not only share their beliefs, but know how the Threadiverse works before joining.

    If the Threadiverse is to grow, people need to be patient with new users, ensuring they are well-informed with an informational DM at the very least if their post must be taken down. People also can’t expect all new users to fit squarely within the relatively niche set of interests the Threadiverse currently caters best to.

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      ensuring they are well-informed with an informational DM at the very least if their post must be taken down.

      I try to average a post a day, spread around a loose collection of maybe a dozen communities. In the past month I’ve goofed twice, and posted something that didn’t quite fit the theme, or contained AI content that I didn’t notice at the time (it was a really good, topical comic, but was also an AI copy of the original, oof). Both times the posts were deleted, which was fine, but no mod note was given, not even to gruffly say “watch it, bub.”

      Good, communicative, active mods are hard to find anywhere, but I reckon the relative lack(?) of such across the FV probably has an unfortunate knock-on effect in that it can discourage new-ish users, even just by accident. This was an easy example above, but as I see it, few communities around here have the actual luxury of not being welcoming and supportive where possible. OTOH, a quality mod to my mind requires a combination of experience, personality and skillset. Plus the ability (or imperviousness) to wade through shite, sometimes. Where are they coming from? Because along with more users, the FV could also use more mods, if only at this point to fill in positions for mods who’ve vamoosed and are now inactive.

      Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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          A related, significant issue, yes.

          Sometime back I had the idea that perhaps a group of us could pledge posting to a smallish set of communities that were great /c’s in themselves, but needed a bit of help with content. My idea is that we’d each rotate between a group of communities, taking turns posting there so that no one person needed to be responsible for any certain place. Frequency of posting would simply be on some kind of regular basis, maybe anywhere from one post a week from each of us, to posting every day.

          Things haven’t been great for me lately, so I’m lagging in that project, but at some point I’d like to git 'er going. If that sounds interesting to you, keep your eye on !fedigrow@lemmy.zip, yeah?

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    we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users

    The best way to attract new users is to have not just a quantity of content but a curated feed of quality content. Part of that means ensuring users’ posts end up in the correct community. If you just allow people to post whatever they want, wherever they want, that’s going to drive users away.

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      PieFed allows mods to move posts from one community to another.

      Actually I think hexbear might too, as it runs a custom-modified fork of Lemmy.

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        Mods have enough to deal with. If getting a single post removed turns someone away from the platform because they couldn’t be arsed to read the rules or search again for the right community, that’s probably a net benefit for the entire Lemmy community.

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    Your account is five days old. So I don’t think your message here carries a lot of weight unfortunately. That post is violating the community rules as well. And the account defended itself to not be a bot when no one accused it of that. So it’s probably not a great case to use to start a warm welcome campaign.

    Former redditors should be familiar with something like forum rules and how to check them.

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    we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users

    Why is this a problem? Right now lemmy is small enough to mostly not draw attention from bots. It’s also small enough that blocking people can actually shape the type of comments you see.

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      It’s not a problem if you’re into

      • (leftist) US politics
      • Linux and other IT topics
      • Star Trek
      • German Memes

      As soon as you try to talk anybody else, you might find you struggle to have a community large enough to sustain a conversation

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    What other reasons can be given for post deletion? Lemmy isn’t worse off due to that post no longer being here.

    The graph is surprising, I expected the opposite, due to reddit becoming more and more reddity every day, along with the current political/social climate in multiple countries. It seems a good time for people to want something different.