I left Reddit to get away from that, but unfortunately there still seem to be a fair number of users here that also are convinced men are the real underclass, victimized by everything.

I think I mostly run into it on meme communities. Is that just the destiny of all meme communities? To be overtaken by MRAs? It sucks because I genuinely like memes, but I don’t like randomly being smacked in the face by misogyny all the time. Any other communities I should avoid?

Any insight or tips appreciated 🥰

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    Young guys fall into it when they’re lonely, don’t know how to talk to girls, and don’t have any better role models. There’s an element of “You need to grow up and do the hard thing” to it.

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      On the plus side a lot of people are going to block OP for this post and that would prevent them from stumbling over the rape cartoon community they moderate.

      I didn’t think shit like that was allowed here, and I definitely don’t want it popping up on /all

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        No, seriously, block me if you find any kind of pornography triggering, I highly encourage it. I don’t want anyone who is uncomfortable with it to run across my work and I don’t really want to deal with kink-negativity, either.

        That said, slut-shaming or kink-shaming me won’t invalidate my point, which is really what most of you are trying to do with the ad hominems.

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      OP self identifies as degenerate, is offended other degenerates exist. because you know, be my flavor of degenerate, not that flavor.

      this is peak cinema. we can only have one underclass, and it’s MINE.

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        I’m not really sure what you mean. You think it’s somehow hypocritical to like porn and dislike running into “women use makeup to LIE TO MEN” memes every day? I’m afraid I don’t see the contradiction. It kinda seems like you just have a problem with women who express sexuality and think we should accept poor treatment.

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    You have some examples of what you’re talking about? Seems ironic to be upset about misogynistic jokes in a meme community while posting images of extreme sexual violence against women. But, I can’t judge until I know specifically what you’re talking about.

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      I want to be really clear that I’m not posting abuse images, which seems to be what you’re implying. Artwork is allowed to be as dark as it needs to be and I’m open to discussions about how kinks don’t form in a vacuum and are influenced by the patriarchy, but to pretend hentai is the same thing as “extreme sexual violence against women” is deliberately disengenuous.

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      That might just be what I’ll have to do, too. Any suggestions for better meme communities? I guess I can always start one lol. It seems irritating to have to specifically have a separate meme community where misogyny isn’t tolerated, but it seems like it’s the only way to be able to enjoy funny images without being jump-scared constantly by people insisting that the evil wimens are gonna get half in the divorce111!!

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    I will join the chorus asking for examples of what you are talking about. Any actually misogynistic content I see is typically massively downvoted.

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      I’m going to be honest, I’m a little perplexed by the demands for evidence. I didn’t really ask to debate wether or not my experiences are real, I asked for some advice. The typical thing to do if you’re unfamiliar with the topic at hand and therefore can’t offer any advice when asked would be to not offer any. I don’t know why people are treating it like a challenge and it’s my job to convince you, but I have some guesses, like, for example, that a lot of you aren’t ready to accept criticism of something you don’t like, or that some of you have some internal work to do that you’re not ready for.

      Other commentors here know exactly what I’m talking about without demanding proof. It’s not just me. I’m sorry if I misjudged you and you’re actually just very interested in learning more about me, but you don’t come off like that at all. You come off like you’re prepared to dismiss any examples I tried to show you anyway.

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        Well you’re saying something that is blatantly untrue and then pretending its a pervasive issue you’re being forced to deal with here every day. Meanwhile this is one of the few places its actually very uncommon and widely frowned upon. Only makes sense if you’re trolling.

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          Yeah, your post where commenters were musing about how “naturally consensual” 14 year olds are is what made me block the shitpost community on Lemmy.world.

          I may not be popular in the meme communities, but I call out shit constantly. Y’all just want to be able to have your casual misogyny without any pushback at all.

          You’re allowed to post it here, but people are allowed to respond to it as well.

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            It’s a daily constant occurrence that is universally approved of and pushed? Because that’s what OP is saying in the post and comments.

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                I just see a loud small minority being treated as if its the vast majority. I feel the same about the shitty rape apologist/pedophilic comments you brought up. It just seems disingenuous to paint Lemmy as being a bastion for sexism where it’s pushed, accepted and promoted. I wouldn’t engage with the site or any of it’s communities if that were the case. I’m more suprised that if you believe it is, you choose to.

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                  I think that most men have a blind spot for this kind of sexism and while you may feel the same as I do about these topics, I don’t think you’re immune from said blind spot.

                  If the vast majority was better about calling out the “loud, small minority”, then maybe the minority wouldn’t feel so big. Silence is complicity.

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    I have seen very little misogyny on the fediverse, and only block people who interact with me personally in an annoying way or who post the same shit (that I don’t like) a lot.

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      I would say I’ve seen very little compared to reddit but I’d like to get it even closer to 0 if possible

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        there’s only a few options that you have available to you then.

        1. block people as they call themselves out
        2. only visit women only communities that are heavily moderated
        3. leave the internet

        there’s people that think differently than I do, that’s ok. I accept that I’ll never have a 0% chance of interacting with them and just have to cope with it when it does happen. it’s not unfair, that’s just life.

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          only visit women only communities that are heavily moderated

          You should see how many men force themselves into posts in women’s only communities simply because it’s women only. That alone confirms the misogyny problem on Lemmy.

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            I mean he also thinks that spreading misogyny is the same as simply “thinking differently than I do and that’s okay” so, yeah lol

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    I see posts like this sometimes and wonder wtf they’re talking about.

    Then I see how huge my blocklist is and realize I’m probably having a very different Lemmy experience.

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      Haha that might just be the solution, I just gotta keep blocking people and it’ll get better eventually.