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Pope Leo XIV @Pontifex: In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.
Spectro @Spectromachina: Pope, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you do not understand? You’re not an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no weight in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. how many local models do you run?
tl;dr:
Pope: “Drugs are bad, m’kay?”
Tweeter: “Well that’s like… your opinion, man.”Anyone else think that he says “Pope,” like he’s speaking to someone named Pope?
What the pope has over many AI influencers in this matter is an actual degree in mathematics.
Who’s spectro? Is this a parody account?
Pope is quite famously an elected position…
We could debate how fair that election is, but that’s a lost cause with churches anyway. It also certainly isn’t an open, democratic election by any stadard, but again, transparency and democracy have never been their mission statement. I’m also on board with treating the cardinals as nobody (important), but that’s not a literal “nobody” either.
So, yeah, he is elected, and by one of the strangest procedures I’ve ever heard about.
It’s basically the same as a board of directors electing their CEO. You not liking the catholic church doesn’t make the election any less valid.
Ok.
“AI influencers” are incredible idiots even amongst idiot influencers. Like said below, using that term as some kind of respected title is beyond ridiculous.
I’m pretty into the local ML space, and I can’t name a single “influencer” that isn’t a shameless scammer or totally unhinged. Or both. Not one that posts anymore, anyway.
Even if they’re talking about some early researchers who Tweet, if you actually listen to them, they’re calling out transformers LLMs as dead ends and have moved to other spaces in ML.
Spectro, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you have a financial stake in? You’re an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no impartiality in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. How many fascists do you pay fees to every month?
So, he was elected, by the cardinals.
He was elected from amongst those that were hopin’ for a popin’.
Made me laugh.
Came here to say that, thanks. He was technically elected.
The dumbest thing here (and it was a tough competition) was using the term “influencer” to imply expert authority.
The pope is arguably the worlds biggest influencer
“you’re not an AI influencer” got me barfing
“noone elected you” : ok so this dipshit doesn’t know the second thing about popes
Not knowing who elects the pope is a Cardinal error.
Right? Mistakes that this have me seeing red with white smoke coming out my ears
sweet
Guaranteed this guy doesn’t even comprehend half of the pope’s post.
how many local models do you run?
I will ask this every AI shill from now on. We all know they are just OpenAI bootlickers
You say doing drugs is bad, but I don’t think you are doing enough drugs to know that.
It’s the new “do you even lift, bro?” for the “AI” goobers
I mean, I’m probably one of those people you’d call out, and I’ve never had an OpenAI subscription, never downloaded the app. Not once. I payed a few pennies for A/B tests via API, is all.
I’ve thought Sam Altman was a creep for a long, looong time.
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Only an “AI influencer” can weigh in on the use of AI? Gee, I’m sure that will lead to nothing but a reasonable, balanced, and nuanced consideration of the issue 🙄
also, lol @ “how many local models do you run?” as if those aren’t also trained on millions of stolen images. Do you even
liftrun local models bro?Ironically as you stated the do you even ai bro is likely using a model he didn’t build that some company based on stolen material, when the Vatican actually does run several private models they actually trained themselves, based mostly on texts in their extensive private library, formed to assist in translations mostly. Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.
Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.
Should be public domain by now… 😅
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Bro didn’t even write his reply using an LLM. Do you even use AI, bro?
!(Writing this comment made me feel a little sick)!<
If any group should have exclusive opinions about LLM generated images, it should be human artists
Yeah, the topic here is really art, so if anyone should have the say about it it should be artists. Art is also subjective though so anyone should be able to have their opinion and I agree with the Pope on this one.
“how many local models do you run?”
This makes me think this guy is just a troll. It’s just too on the nose to be real. Combine that with his edgy profile pic and my bullshit alarm is ringing.
You do know you can train your own models, right?
And those are by definition ran locally.
Yeah, and where’s the training data set coming from?
You can hate on the church for many things, but you can’t deny that they’ve been one of the art world’s biggest patrons for thousands of years.
Well that’s mainly because of all the satan statues they commission being too sexy—leading them to have to pay a new artist to tone it down. Except the new statue comes out even sexier, leading them to commission a new artist to…
Plot twist: it is always the same artist
Like, wearing a fake mustache and going by the name of Felipino McStatue?
To be fair, they patronized artists from tithes collected from the population. So it’s hard to say how much art didn’t happen because there was less free time available.
It’s like how Rockefeller got a plaza named after him for his philanthropy after being a monopolist. We see the help they did but what was lost is invisible.
No matter how much I abhor the bs that comes with it, I can still find myself in some awe in a grand cathedral. At least I can attribute that to something someone did with their hands, and not a raindrop in a cloud of staggering uncare spewing forth into the mouths of people who aren’t interested in tasting the slopfest
Makes sense as a lot of religious influence came from their ability to awe people and inspire deep emotions. It’s why for hundreds of years they had a monopoly on music being performed.
for hundreds of years they had a monopoly on music being performed
Interesting. I don’t know much about the history of the Catholic Church so I’d never heard about that. Which centuries did they have a monopoly and what was the punishment for performing without the church’s permission?
Kinda hate these idiots are pushing me to side with the pope
It’s okay to be equally against them both, for different reasons.
