Let’s not pretend he believes anything he says.
Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They’re not fucking joking.
edit: JD might be lying (IMO he’s not) but his audience believe it 100% and they’re being stoked towards violence at the institutional level https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
When I say take them at face value, it’s cuz we’re talking about people who literally believe God will call them to genocide you. IYKYK
He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist. He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.
He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist
Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you’d have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.
He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do.
Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.
Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon’s razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he’s saying.
I’m not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do that and he’s probably 100% serious.
This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.
you weren’t brought up by Peter Thiel, and probably didn’t go to Yale Law (no offense intended, most of us didn’t)
Neither were the thousands to millions of christo-fascists currently being stoked toward violence. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj
JD believing what he’s saying is irrelevant when his audience believes it. He uses coded language that has charged meanings in Christian circles.
EoD smart americans should not assume dumb americans don’t believe that crap. Cuz they do.
Of course, but that wasn’t the point.
The point in question was that JD Vance very likely does not believe this bullshit, irrespective of what his followers believe or do
that wasn’t the point.
But what is your point? You’ve contributed nothing to this conversation. I find your comments vapid and annoying.
Exactly. Vance says whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Always has, always will.
Like I’m not moving the goalposts here, but JD believing what he’s saying is irrelevant. He’s using coded language that is well understood in Christian circles. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
My real point, as someone raised in those circles, is that you should really fucking believe them when they tell you who they are.
And they’re also talking with a lot of people in Israel who really believe in that language too. Texas ain’t sending red heifers to Israel for beef.
texas ain’t sending red heifers to Israel for beef.
I’m almost afraid to ask but what new hell is this?
Long story short, a perfect red heifer is needed to purify clergy in order for the 3rd temple to be consecrated. The only problem is that there’s kinda an important mosque sitting where that temple would be.
Mike Johnson also all tied up in this.
Like in the Bible? Because that’s not real
Christians will be happy with a close approximation just as long as they can make sure it’s everyone else that’s fucked.
You know that and I know that but a truly shocking number of ostensibly responsible adults … don’t
They don’t know what the end times actually is/entails.
If you ask them for a proper explanation they can not answer beyond the fairy tale that they are taught.
But a specific thing grounded in reality they can not point to, and if they’re called evil for wanting harm on millions of people you can see them think “how do I declare the victims to be evil?”.I’m convinced there currently are some in the US government who are so delusional that they think they in-person are one of the four horsemen personified…
You know here in Australia, people have tried to “cure” religions they don’t agree with. White people have tried to exterminate Aboriginal religions. Because these religions were seen as dangerous and primitive.
Personally, I think taking people’s religions away from them on a massive population level is genocide. Aboriginal Australians have faced genocide for their religion. And to Me, this meme looks like a call to genocide.
To me it really doesn’t look like a call to genocide. In a democracy like Australia, religion is being defeated gradually by education, rational debate, and mockery when all else fails.
White people have tried to exterminate Aboriginal religions. Because these religions were seen as dangerous and primitive.
That was ethnic cleansing using religion as an excuse. That’s not the same as doing away with religion. If your actual target is religion there’s no reason to mistreat people.
There’s no way to destroy cultural beliefs without mistreating people.
Who says you have to destroy cultural beliefs? The issues with religion are behavioral.
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Oh, you’re doing this kind of thing huh? Well, speaking of bad behaviors… bye.
Religion should disqualify a person from anything above a janitor.
Janitor, depending on the work place have contract with children. So maybe not
I thought children can’t sign contracts
Looks like they can now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labor_in_the_United_States#21st_century
Religious people make up a large portion of the dipshits who don’t believe in stuff like germ theory…for instance Kennedy and Kegsbreath, do you want them in charge of sanitation?
“I think there are things about the world that make feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us,” Vance added.
Oh, you’re so close, J D
This is Peter Thiel’s ideology, almost verbatim.
They’re both on the Antichrist’s side
Fascinating enough, this might be actually “ok” by they are in the accelerationist camp, then the anti christ is a good thing. They think the world is beyond saving and thus the faster the end times come, the better.
Which is ironically so far from the text of the religion that one might even call it antichristianity
And both have been inside each other
's couches
But also
BOOTY
He’s only VP because Thiel interceded for him…
US Evangelism is a doomsday cult.
And JD Vance is a Catholic, but is obviously pandering to their death cult base
he’s a catholic who disagrees with the pope and married an indian. I strongly suspect he’s more of a generic chirstian at heart and not beholden in any way to big C catholocism.
Goa is a very Catholic region in India, I think you meant to specify Hindu, not Indian.
is she from Goa and a catholic?
So you were just being racist? She’s from San Diego and a Hindu, the actual problem.
Its not a doomsday cult. Its a death cult. Its far worse.They worship death not Armageddon.I was wrong. Doomsday cults are scarier.
Nope. The other way around. They’re all praying for the Rapture and the 2nd coming…which all goes hand-in-hand with the end of the world. Heaven on Earth can’t happen until God wipes the world clean, leaving only the righteous to inherit what’s left.
This is why they support Israel unconditionally. Not because they love Jews…but because Jews need to return to Israel in order to start the final battle between good and evil. That’s how they interpret the Book of Revelations. It’s all Biblical end-times prophecy coming true, and they see it as their religious duty to make sure it all happens as predicted.
I feel like if you’re intentionally acting to fulfill a prophecy, then it’s not really a prophecy.
As far as they’re concerned…it’s a “Plan”. “God’s Plan”. And they’re just happy to be a part of it, even if it ends with billions of people dying.
As long as God saves them…fuck all the rest o’ y’all.
Hasn’t that always been the endgame for White Christian Nationalists?
i had an interesting conversation with someone who i had viewed as a mentor growing up. we both walked away wondering where we’d lost the other one. in summary we were talking about deepwater horizon, as it was current news at the time. they mentioned that the world had to basically be destroyed before jesus came back so why bother. i told them in the language of the cult we’d been raised together in that weren’t we supposed to take care of the environment? (and everyone clapped i’m sure, we were blocking half an aisle in costco).
but like, if i could rip a bandaid and make everything as magical as they believe it will be, i’d go for it. just, shit ain’t squeeze that way.
We’ve known for years that these Nationalist Christians wanted to bring about the end times, they’re just finally at the point where they can finally say it out loud and not have to tap dance around it.
Fucking Nat-Cs, always have to make the world worse so they can get to the end of their fairy tale (despite knowing that they’ll be left behind because they are the most unchristian people of all)…
I’m generally fine with their arrogant LARPing, so long as it remains on some compound in Texas or whatever. Taxpayer money going to find out that a religion has missed its 9 millionth End Times prediction in an unironic effort to make their god do things on their schedule is some tremendous BS.
Thiel is an accelerationist, therefore his pet is too
thiel the anti-christ, called on JD to reap the popes soul.
and people wonder why I despise of religious folk in charge
hes a faux chatholic, became one to get elected by appalachians apparently. and he was handpicked by anti-christ thiel.
I was born here and grew up here and I can tell you with no doubt that this place is far right wing evangelical. So far right that Asheville has the center for Billy Graham’s cult and Ridgecrest. No they think Catholics are not Christian. I really have no idea why he converted to Catholicism other than he is willing to change his face to get what he wants.
I am convinced that extreme evangelical shitheads like him want to bring about the end times because getting raptured is their shot at getting into heaven without actually having to die first. Jesus comes and takes you to heaven without all that nasty dying business.
“None of you are going to heaven.”
-God or Bo Burnham or something, idk
What has Bo Burnham been up to since that COVID special?
I heard he transcended into Godhood through the power of satire.
Vance: I’m trying to focus on doing as much of God’s work as possible.
Name one thing that he has done that the bible god wants done
Fucking couches is in the bible surely?
Ol’ JD rolls up to the pearly gates.
Bible God: So, couches?
JD: You betcha! Bible God: C’mon in, my man!Just a jizzy awful mess up there.
Because MAGA hates this cunt, and he wants to run for president in 2028. He is going after a group even worse than MAGA - American faux Christians.
You know most of maga supporters also used to hate Trump right? He was a Democrat and best friends with the Clintons and a big city fat cat, they do not care about anything except what helps them spread hate more easily.
Look, I understand the concern.
But these guys are actually a death cult. Just like Nazis were. Maybe we should, you know, point out that the rapists are murderers too.
